Comments on: Cobalt Blue, Classic Rogue? http://speedforce.org/2008/10/cobalt-blue/ Tracking the Flash - the Fastest Man Alive Thu, 09 Feb 2012 12:56:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Joe http://speedforce.org/2008/10/cobalt-blue/#comment-17430 Joe Sun, 01 Aug 2010 04:30:09 +0000 http://speedforce.org/?p=1381#comment-17430 I'd like to see what Geoff Johns could do with this guy. I’d like to see what Geoff Johns could do with this guy.

]]> By: The Irredeemable Shag http://speedforce.org/2008/10/cobalt-blue/#comment-678 The Irredeemable Shag Mon, 10 Nov 2008 04:11:17 +0000 http://speedforce.org/?p=1381#comment-678 Cobalt Blue would have absolutely worked in the Silver Age. Evil twins were part and parcel back then. I've always disliked the Cobalt Blue storyline, but your Silver Age idea paints it in a whole new light. I may have to go back and re-read that story again. Keep up the great work! The Irredeemable Shag http://onceuponageek.com .-= The Irredeemable Shag’s latest blog post: <a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/OnceUponAGeek/~3/445360882/" rel="nofollow">List Week: A Variety of Geek Lists</a> =-. Cobalt Blue would have absolutely worked in the Silver Age. Evil twins were part and parcel back then.

I’ve always disliked the Cobalt Blue storyline, but your Silver Age idea paints it in a whole new light. I may have to go back and re-read that story again.

Keep up the great work!

The Irredeemable Shag
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]]> By: West http://speedforce.org/2008/10/cobalt-blue/#comment-611 West Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:47:35 +0000 http://speedforce.org/?p=1381#comment-611 I could see CB working in the past and thus being more accepted in the future*. But the twin thing is problematic in that, for me anyway, it prompts questions about Barry's parentage (which could be a good thing, actually) and it shows up on the back end of a half-century of silence about this twin who supposedly existed all along. I'd want to see some serious tracks laid down to prepare us for this bombshell. Before Waid had Wally go talk to his younger self, he injected the previously non-existent life-changing moment into Wally's history, then let us get used to it. So, as you say, a lot of the "lamest" stuff works when it's done properly. The problem is that it has to be done really, really, really well and not many creators are up to the task, imo. * kinda like how having named someone "Captain Cold" a looooong time, ago, makes the character more palatable than if he were created now .-= West’s latest blog post: <a href="http://west3man.blogspot.com/2008/10/where-credits-due.html" rel="nofollow">Where Credit's Due</a> =-. I could see CB working in the past and thus being more accepted in the future*. But the twin thing is problematic in that, for me anyway, it prompts questions about Barry’s parentage (which could be a good thing, actually) and it shows up on the back end of a half-century of silence about this twin who supposedly existed all along.

I’d want to see some serious tracks laid down to prepare us for this bombshell. Before Waid had Wally go talk to his younger self, he injected the previously non-existent life-changing moment into Wally’s history, then let us get used to it.

So, as you say, a lot of the “lamest” stuff works when it’s done properly. The problem is that it has to be done really, really, really well and not many creators are up to the task, imo.

* kinda like how having named someone “Captain Cold” a looooong time, ago, makes the character more palatable than if he were created now

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]]> By: Alan Trehern http://speedforce.org/2008/10/cobalt-blue/#comment-610 Alan Trehern Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:20:13 +0000 http://speedforce.org/?p=1381#comment-610 @ Kelson. In the DCU? YES! @ Kelson. In the DCU? YES!

]]> By: Luke http://speedforce.org/2008/10/cobalt-blue/#comment-609 Luke Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:32:32 +0000 http://speedforce.org/?p=1381#comment-609 I too think Cobalt Blue would have worked well in the Silver Age. I mean, I can pretty much see how your recurring story would go. Barry would be in the lab, and suddenly, a future version of the Flash would show up and ask for his help. And Barry would (very helpfully) say, "You must have run into my twin brother, Cobalt Blue! A twist of fate seperated us at birth... and now he is my exact opposite!" And then it's Cosmic Treadmill and 18 pages of super-speed and Flash Facts. (And, at some point Elongated Man would tag along.) I liked Chain Lightning because, to me, it took the concept of the Flash being "generational" to the final logical conclusion. The Flash is one of the best properties in the superhero world at taking all that has come before and making it somehow work. Batfans will wring their hands and gnash their teeth at te goofy 50s science fiction tales, but Flash fans seem to more readily accept everything from Mr. Element to Rainbow Raider. I too think Cobalt Blue would have worked well in the Silver Age. I mean, I can pretty much see how your recurring story would go. Barry would be in the lab, and suddenly, a future version of the Flash would show up and ask for his help. And Barry would (very helpfully) say, “You must have run into my twin brother, Cobalt Blue! A twist of fate seperated us at birth… and now he is my exact opposite!” And then it’s Cosmic Treadmill and 18 pages of super-speed and Flash Facts. (And, at some point Elongated Man would tag along.)

I liked Chain Lightning because, to me, it took the concept of the Flash being “generational” to the final logical conclusion. The Flash is one of the best properties in the superhero world at taking all that has come before and making it somehow work. Batfans will wring their hands and gnash their teeth at te goofy 50s science fiction tales, but Flash fans seem to more readily accept everything from Mr. Element to Rainbow Raider.

]]> By: Mike Y http://speedforce.org/2008/10/cobalt-blue/#comment-608 Mike Y Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:13:59 +0000 http://speedforce.org/?p=1381#comment-608 I was just reading this and thinking how a lot of people though Barry Allen might be the Libra running around. What is they were half right? What if it was Cobalt Blue under the mask. Just an interesting thought, but probably totally untrue. I'm surprised to hear that Waid has said that the Cobalt blue idea failed, because I loved that run of the Flash, Chain Lightning is one of if not one of my favorite Flash stories. Reminds me of how they are currently expanding the Green Lantern mythos. I was just reading this and thinking how a lot of people though Barry Allen might be the Libra running around. What is they were half right? What if it was Cobalt Blue under the mask. Just an interesting thought, but probably totally untrue.

I’m surprised to hear that Waid has said that the Cobalt blue idea failed, because I loved that run of the Flash, Chain Lightning is one of if not one of my favorite Flash stories. Reminds me of how they are currently expanding the Green Lantern mythos.

]]> By: Kelson http://speedforce.org/2008/10/cobalt-blue/#comment-607 Kelson Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:50:36 +0000 http://speedforce.org/?p=1381#comment-607 @Alan: Really? You think a counterpart from an alternate universe that has since been destroyed is <strong>more believable</strong> than a separated-at-birth biological twin? :? @Alan: Really? You think a counterpart from an alternate universe that has since been destroyed is more believable than a separated-at-birth biological twin? :?

]]> By: M. J. Springer http://speedforce.org/2008/10/cobalt-blue/#comment-606 M. J. Springer Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:48:27 +0000 http://speedforce.org/?p=1381#comment-606 What if that's NOT Barry that's recently returned, but Cobalt Blue instead ?!?!?! What if that’s NOT Barry that’s recently returned, but Cobalt Blue instead ?!?!?!

]]> By: Alan Trehern http://speedforce.org/2008/10/cobalt-blue/#comment-605 Alan Trehern Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:35:56 +0000 http://speedforce.org/?p=1381#comment-605 I think he would have worked too! I also agree that the twin concept was a stretch. Maybe if they could have explained it as a Barry from an alternate world left behind from the remains of the multiverse? That way he looks like Barry, but isn't really a biological twin. Maybe Johns will correct Cobalt Blue's origin in Flash? .-= Alan Trehern’s latest blog post: <a href="http://thesolarsentinel.blogspot.com/2008/10/legend-of-zelda-movie.html" rel="nofollow">A Legend of Zelda Movie?</a> =-. I think he would have worked too! I also agree that the twin concept was a stretch. Maybe if they could have explained it as a Barry from an alternate world left behind from the remains of the multiverse? That way he looks like Barry, but isn’t really a biological twin.

Maybe Johns will correct Cobalt Blue’s origin in Flash?

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]]> By: Jason West http://speedforce.org/2008/10/cobalt-blue/#comment-604 Jason West Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:32:54 +0000 http://speedforce.org/?p=1381#comment-604 heck yes he would've! i think they should bring him back in The Flash in the next couple of years. he would've easily worked back then, he could probably work now (w/ a twist now that Barry's back...) i'm still waiting for DC to release this storyline in book form (as well as Dark Flash/others) heck yes he would’ve! i think they should bring him back in The Flash in the next couple of years. he would’ve easily worked back then, he could probably work now (w/ a twist now that Barry’s back…)

i’m still waiting for DC to release this storyline in book form (as well as Dark Flash/others)

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