I’m just sayin’…

Villain Zero, i Laughed Out Loud when i read that! freakin cracked me up, man…

oh, and thanks, VZ, for clarifying what i was lost on…

(you forgot 2 big ones, though:
J’onn J’onnz is dead and rejoined with his fam &
Barry Allen has officially returned! yay!
btw: how do you know Bruce was “de-aged”?)

2000th comment! heck yes! go me!

.-= Jason West’s latest blog post: The Final Crisis! =-.

1/Darkseid is gone for good
2/Earth 51 is New Genesis
3/The ONLY monitor is the anitmonitor who is trapped and being used as the Black Lantern Corps battery (pwn)
4/Orion is Dead
5/Batman is trapped in pre-history and de-aged
6/Bludhaven is toasted
7/Doctor Light (Mr. Rapey Raperson) is dead
8/We found out about the Radiant (G-Ds Spirit of Mercy)

And by the way, Mandrakk munched both the Specter and the Radiant so Vengence will take a break for a bit

Timewise – *Deep Breath* Both New Krypton and Trinity took place before FC. Trinity was before New Krypton and so far it looks like when Trinity is over no one will remember (in-universe anyway, ironic because no one remembers the Heroic Trinity sort-of). The thing with the Green Lantern Corps starts after Final Crisis 1 but does not end until after Final Crisis 7, WAY after.

Hope that helps sort everything out – SYWWTBY

1. Orion died Once – in Death Of the New Gods before the end he refuses medical aid and walks off to die. He does this in Final Crisis 1 where he was shot by Darkseid in issue 7 to silence him from warning the heroes. My guess is he had enough time left to outline the threat, and his dad was pissed for having his HEART RIPPED OUT!

2. Barry Allen never really died, he pulled a Libra and ran so fast he split into trillions of pieces and entered the speed force – SOMETHING put the pieces back together.

3. The vampire creature was Mandrakk a pun on Mandrake the first DC Comic Hero. The son of the COIE Monitor (not antimonitor) he realized that all Monitors drained energy just like the antimonitor and embraced his vampiric nature.

4. Darkseid had his body destroyed along with Apokolips in Death of the New Gods but because he finally gained the AL equation he was able to possess Boss Dark Side and then Dan Turpin.

5. Apokilips is GONE – New Genesis is the New Earth 51.

6. The exiled Monitor who became the judge of all evil was stripped of his powers in Countdown because his earth was destroyed twice in the same year (from a multiversal perspective). He regained his memory and gathered almost every superman from the 52 earths (I think I saw 45 Superman + Earth 5 Captain Marvel and Mr Majestic). He reliquineshed his power because he felt it was time for there to be no more MONITORS PERIOD.

thanks for debating with me, btw. i always appreciate a fellow cb geek who’s willing to argue level-headedly over controversial issues (such as this).

“HOW?? How did he return from the dead? Why now?”

i believe that’s what we’re finding out on April 1st…

“I like this, I do. But how was Superman holding his skeleton then?”

if he was thrown into the past, and he stayed in pretty much the same area, he would’ve died there, no?

“Man, I don’t even remember this.”

7th ish. right as the “tunnel” in Checkmate was closing, the Hawks sacrificed themselves and, from the looks of it, burned to death. on the page near the end where everyone’s cleaning up/reuniting, you see the Bat-cowl, J’onn’s pyramid (see Requiem), and TWO feathers as they talk of their losses.

“Which Darkseid: the god, Turpin, Boss Dark Side? And didn’t Piper destroy Apokolips? But now Apokolips is New Genesis? Are there 2 New Genesii?”

i never understood Kirby’s stuff too well, especially New Gods-stuff. sooo…ya got me! (i think it was just Darkseid in general…)

“Why was he exiled? What happened to the Monitors now? Is that guy back as a human?”

exiled?: his earth (51) was destroyed.
now?: dunno…we’ll see(?)
human?: apparantly…

.-= Jason West’s latest blog post: The Final Crisis! =-.

One thing I liked – are they bringing back the real Aquaman? That would be good.