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	<title>Comments on: Full Review: Flash: Rebirth #2 &#8212; &#8220;Dead Run&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Star Trek: Experiencing Seismic Activity &#124; K-Squared Ramblings</title>
		<link>http://speedforce.org/2009/05/review-flash-rebirth-2/#comment-1907</link>
		<dc:creator>Star Trek: Experiencing Seismic Activity &#124; K-Squared Ramblings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 07:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] relies heavily on the same dead-relative-as-motivation trope that&#8217;s bothering me so much in Flash: Rebirth. But I can see what they were going for and why they did [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] relies heavily on the same dead-relative-as-motivation trope that&#8217;s bothering me so much in Flash: Rebirth. But I can see what they were going for and why they did [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Newcomb</title>
		<link>http://speedforce.org/2009/05/review-flash-rebirth-2/#comment-1877</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Newcomb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 14:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: bowtie.

I thought it was a simple way of adding to the character (he&#039;s unprepared from being so focused) while giving a nod to the history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: bowtie.</p>
<p>I thought it was a simple way of adding to the character (he&#8217;s unprepared from being so focused) while giving a nod to the history.</p>
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		<title>By: Omar Karindu</title>
		<link>http://speedforce.org/2009/05/review-flash-rebirth-2/#comment-1841</link>
		<dc:creator>Omar Karindu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 22:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s another, geekier problem with Henry Allen going to jail and dying there -- it pretty much destroys the premise of Johns&#039;s own &quot;Rogue War&quot; and Identity Crisis tie-in storylines, and with them much about the rogues in general, by making the 1970s &quot;Top in Henry Allen&#039;s body&quot; story impossible.

Along similar lines...wasn&#039;t it the Black Racer, nt the Black Flash, that they used against Darkseid?  Or are they the same being now?  If so, the Racer&#039;s always had a human host -- Willie Lincoln, from Kirby&#039;s introduction of the character, would be the best known.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s another, geekier problem with Henry Allen going to jail and dying there &#8212; it pretty much destroys the premise of Johns&#8217;s own &#8220;Rogue War&#8221; and Identity Crisis tie-in storylines, and with them much about the rogues in general, by making the 1970s &#8220;Top in Henry Allen&#8217;s body&#8221; story impossible.</p>
<p>Along similar lines&#8230;wasn&#8217;t it the Black Racer, nt the Black Flash, that they used against Darkseid?  Or are they the same being now?  If so, the Racer&#8217;s always had a human host &#8212; Willie Lincoln, from Kirby&#8217;s introduction of the character, would be the best known.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelson</title>
		<link>http://speedforce.org/2009/05/review-flash-rebirth-2/#comment-1821</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 15:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Rob: Sadly, I feel like &quot;baby and the bathwater&quot; is DC&#039;s standard approach these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rob: Sadly, I feel like &#8220;baby and the bathwater&#8221; is DC&#8217;s standard approach these days.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://speedforce.org/2009/05/review-flash-rebirth-2/#comment-1820</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 08:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two issues down, and I&#039;m underwhelmed.
So far, Johns hasn&#039;t given me a SINGLE reason for Barry&#039;s return.

I think I&#039;m MORE pissed that Wally and his cast is uncerimoniously dumped. Savitar was a brilliant creation, and ever since the end of &#039;Dead Heat&#039; have begged for a return bout between him and Wally.

Unfortunately, Johns has taken the &#039;baby AND bathwater&#039; approach and wasted a character with endless potential to leand gravatis to a rather uninteresting situation.

I&#039;ll continue with this book and hope for the best. But if the first two issues are any indication, I find the return of Barry Allen not only unnecessary, but more worrying, uninteresting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two issues down, and I&#8217;m underwhelmed.<br />
So far, Johns hasn&#8217;t given me a SINGLE reason for Barry&#8217;s return.</p>
<p>I think I&#8217;m MORE pissed that Wally and his cast is uncerimoniously dumped. Savitar was a brilliant creation, and ever since the end of &#8216;Dead Heat&#8217; have begged for a return bout between him and Wally.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, Johns has taken the &#8216;baby AND bathwater&#8217; approach and wasted a character with endless potential to leand gravatis to a rather uninteresting situation.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll continue with this book and hope for the best. But if the first two issues are any indication, I find the return of Barry Allen not only unnecessary, but more worrying, uninteresting.</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor of Doom</title>
		<link>http://speedforce.org/2009/05/review-flash-rebirth-2/#comment-1787</link>
		<dc:creator>Doctor of Doom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 10:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone else find it slightly ominous that we saw &quot;You&#039;re talking about Johnny Quick. And bart&#039;s mentor-&quot;

*New panel with Flash in shadow*
*KRAKOOM FLASH OF LIGHTNING*
(Bolded Writing)Max Mercury.


...Anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone else find it slightly ominous that we saw &#8220;You&#8217;re talking about Johnny Quick. And bart&#8217;s mentor-&#8221;</p>
<p>*New panel with Flash in shadow*<br />
*KRAKOOM FLASH OF LIGHTNING*<br />
(Bolded Writing)Max Mercury.</p>
<p>&#8230;Anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: The Four Color Media Monitor</title>
		<link>http://speedforce.org/2009/05/review-flash-rebirth-2/#comment-1765</link>
		<dc:creator>The Four Color Media Monitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 07:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Flash&#039;s Rebirth blacks out...&lt;/strong&gt;

The webmaster of the Flash fansite Those Who Ride the Lightning has reviewed the second issue of Flash: Rebirth on his Speed Force blog, and I find nothing to be relieved by. Geoff Johns makes a supremely silly attempt to explain Barry&#039;s bowtie from ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Flash&#8217;s Rebirth blacks out&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>The webmaster of the Flash fansite Those Who Ride the Lightning has reviewed the second issue of Flash: Rebirth on his Speed Force blog, and I find nothing to be relieved by. Geoff Johns makes a supremely silly attempt to explain Barry&#8217;s bowtie from &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://speedforce.org/2009/05/review-flash-rebirth-2/#comment-1764</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 07:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Aleclom bout Bart: Well, not really. Looking back at Rebirth #1 (yea, I know, old news), I find it disturbing that Bart&#039;s pissed at Barry&#039;s return. I mean, if I&#039;m not wrong, Bart loved Barry. So Max didn&#039;t get out, shouldn&#039;t he still be happy out his grandpa?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Aleclom bout Bart: Well, not really. Looking back at Rebirth #1 (yea, I know, old news), I find it disturbing that Bart&#8217;s pissed at Barry&#8217;s return. I mean, if I&#8217;m not wrong, Bart loved Barry. So Max didn&#8217;t get out, shouldn&#8217;t he still be happy out his grandpa?</p>
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		<title>By: Kelson</title>
		<link>http://speedforce.org/2009/05/review-flash-rebirth-2/#comment-1762</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 06:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Vinnie: reminds me a bit of Reign of the Supermen, actually.

@Yossarian1373: Yeah, I doubt he&#039;ll stay the Black Flash...or if he does, he&#039;ll learn to control its effects.  And believe me, you&#039;re not the only one burnt out on relaunches!

@Lia: I find the presence of Patty Spivot and Captain Frye in the flashback to be very interesting, because it has shown me exactly where the line is between retcons I&#039;ll accept and retcons that make me grit my teeth.  I don&#039;t mind</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Vinnie: reminds me a bit of Reign of the Supermen, actually.</p>
<p>@Yossarian1373: Yeah, I doubt he&#8217;ll stay the Black Flash&#8230;or if he does, he&#8217;ll learn to control its effects.  And believe me, you&#8217;re not the only one burnt out on relaunches!</p>
<p>@Lia: I find the presence of Patty Spivot and Captain Frye in the flashback to be very interesting, because it has shown me exactly where the line is between retcons I&#8217;ll accept and retcons that make me grit my teeth.  I don&#8217;t mind</p>
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		<title>By: papa zero</title>
		<link>http://speedforce.org/2009/05/review-flash-rebirth-2/#comment-1761</link>
		<dc:creator>papa zero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 22:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the story will have long term ramifications to the Flash mythos but the pacing of this particular story is dependent on the story arc.  As Kelson points out - much of it has focused on death so far with just enough room for the re-aquianting with Barry and several mystery setups.  

I think it will be a good story when the whole picture is viewable but my fear is that the long term ramifications will leave Barry as the stereo-typical hardboiled TV crime drama cop.  Beleive it or not, before the the trial...  and before the post mortem re-imagining of Barry as a saint/hardass there was fun and wonder in being a superhero within the pages of Barry Allen&#039;s Flash.  Some of that sense of humor seems to have been picked up by Bart.  I don&#039;t think any comic has to be any one thing - and they certainly don&#039;t write it just for me but it might get a little tedious for my taste if an ongoing series requires some earth shattering drama every 6 issues followed by a DC-wide event.

To their credit some of the historical references have shown the spirit of that fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the story will have long term ramifications to the Flash mythos but the pacing of this particular story is dependent on the story arc.  As Kelson points out &#8211; much of it has focused on death so far with just enough room for the re-aquianting with Barry and several mystery setups.  </p>
<p>I think it will be a good story when the whole picture is viewable but my fear is that the long term ramifications will leave Barry as the stereo-typical hardboiled TV crime drama cop.  Beleive it or not, before the the trial&#8230;  and before the post mortem re-imagining of Barry as a saint/hardass there was fun and wonder in being a superhero within the pages of Barry Allen&#8217;s Flash.  Some of that sense of humor seems to have been picked up by Bart.  I don&#8217;t think any comic has to be any one thing &#8211; and they certainly don&#8217;t write it just for me but it might get a little tedious for my taste if an ongoing series requires some earth shattering drama every 6 issues followed by a DC-wide event.</p>
<p>To their credit some of the historical references have shown the spirit of that fun.</p>
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