Thoughts on the New DCU – Part 5: The Next Generation of Justice

We continue our series reacting to DC’s September relaunch. Previously we’ve covered the Justice League, Green Lantern, Batman and Dark titles. Now we look at the Teen Titans, Legion and other young heroes.

Legion of Super-Heroes · Legion Lost · Teen Titans · Static Shock · Hawk & Dove

Legion of Superheroes and Legion Lost

Greg: The Legion stuff should be interesting, but to me a lot of the charm was the multiple versions and the implications. I wonder how much of that will make it over, if at all.

Devin: There have been a couple times where I’ve thought about trying out Legion of Superheroes; back when I first read about XS in The Flash, and when I read about the Tornado Twins being one of the Legion’s inspirations. Unfortunately the amount of characters, reboots and continuity fixes is extremely overwhelming. With them also rarely featuring speedsters on their team this left me with even less reason to try and jump on.

Fabian Nicieza was my first favorite comic book writer. I was a huge fan of his work on the New Warriors in the 90s, and I also was a fan of his Nova and Thunderbolts stuff too. This is a situation where the writer might be enough to get me to try out a new series.

Kelson: The only version of the Legion I ever got into was the “Five Years Later” Giffen/Biernbaum run. It’s apparently disliked so much that it didn’t get more than a cameo in Legion of Three Worlds. It sounds like DC isn’t tweaking the current version much other than splitting off the “lost” team, which I guess speaks to confidence in the concept.

Lia: I’ve never gotten into the Legion, and generally have little interest in it. However, I like Fabian Nicieza’s work, and the apparent twist of it being set in the present has potential. More Legion, but presumably set in the future. Not really my thing.

Teen Titans

Devin: The more I look at this Kid Flash redesign the more I like it. I am definitely on board with this series. I’m not that huge of a fan of the rest of the designs but I’ve always had a soft spot for teen books and I’ve been itching to see Teen Titans return to glory for years now. I think Scott Lobdell is definitely the right person for the job especially given his experience with Generation X.

Lia: These designs are mostly horrible, and I’ve never been fond of Brett Booth’s art. Couple that with Lobdell as the writer and this is a definite pass for me. So many of these ‘teen’ books seem like the `90s all over again.

Kelson: I’m not sure I can really judge a Titans book fairly at this point. The Wolfman/Perez Titans are what got me into comics, and the DCU in particular, and led me to all kinds of related characters, but I’ve been burned enough times by Titans relaunches that I’ve decided it’s best to stay away.

That said: I’m glad Bart’s in the book, and I’m glad they haven’t reverted Wally to Kid Flash. I think Kid Flash’s costume is too busy, though, and it seems a bit too “kewl” for the fun-loving Bart I know. Actually, most of the costumes give me the impression of trying too hard to reach a demographic (and one that I’m not in, at that).

Greg: The Kid Flash costume is pretty cool. Keep in mind, even Superman’s digs are being tweaked. Still, the original was the coolest costume, hands down.

Hawk and Dove

Greg: I like that the Hawk & Dove announcement explains what exactly they represent, that is sometimes lost or unmentioned in the books themselves.

Lia: Mah gawd. I really like this lineup of Hawk and Dove, but with Rob Liefeld? Hell no. Please find another artist.

Kelson: According to Dan Didio, they convinced Rob Liefeld to come in because so many fans had fond memories of his run on the book. I have fond memories of the book, but they’re not because of the art…and after his two-issue story on Teen Titans a few years back, I don’t want to read a whole series with him on the characters.

Devin: Rob Liefeld? No thanks.

Static Shock

Devin: I never thought I would be seeing Static Shock in an ongoing series again. Mr. McDuffie must be smiling from heaven. Now if only we can get an actual action figure of Static as a teenager I think we can finally be content. I hated how they tried to just throw Static onto the Teen Titans it just doesn’t work that way. I personally see Static kind of becoming DC’s version of Spider-Man. Young, relatable, in demand, works most solo and a wisecracker extraordinaire. I can’t wait for this.

Kelson: I’ve never read the book, but I’m glad to see Milestone’s most successful character still around.

Lia: Unfortunately I don’t know anything about these creators or the character, so can’t offer an opinion on it. It’s nice to see Dwayne McDuffie’s legacy continue, however.

Part 1: Justice League
Part 2: Green Lanterns
Part 3: Batman
Part 4: The Dark Side
Next up: The Edge

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About Greg Elias

Greg is a lifelong DC Comics fan and Flash collector who began contributing to Speed Force in 2010. He currently lives and works in South Carolina, with his wife Ellen.

About Kelson

Kelson has been reading comics since he was eight, starting with DC and moving out toward indies. He started reading The Flash in 1987, and has since tracked down all of the Silver Age and more Golden Age Flash comics than he expected. He ran the fan reference site, Flash: Those Who Ride the Lightning for 15 years.

About Lia

Lia is a Canadian fan of the Flashes and the Rogues. She's particularly interested in memorabilia of the Rogues and Reverse Flashes, collecting art, and memorizing a whole lot of pointless trivia. She may be the world's only diehard fan of the Top due to a love of hopeless causes, and she runs a fan blog on Tumblr, known as gorogues or The Rogues Kick Ass.

About Devin

My name is Devin Johnson and I write for Speedforce.org, a blog dedicated to providing all the latest news about the Scarlet Speedster. I mostly contribute to the collectibles part of the site since that is my thing. I recently started my own blog at fastestfanalive.com that highlights items from my collection and great art!

3 thoughts on “Thoughts on the New DCU – Part 5: The Next Generation of Justice

  1. Jason West

    I thought about getting Teen Titans but there are so many other books amongst the 52 I would MUCH rather get. Nothing for me thanks…:)

    But I will add that I love Tim’s Red Robin costume and Conner’s S-shield barcode tattoo (he’s a clone!!!)

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  2. Esteban Pedreros

    Nobody asked me but my take is:

    LSH & Legion Lost

    I liked Levitz’s LSH back in the day, and I like what he is doing now. It seems that the team is a little bit younger now, but I have confidence in what he can do. I hope is not a relaunch, I’ve seen enough of those.

    The Legion Lost doesn’t appeal much to me, Nicieza’s work is hit and miss for me, and I have fond memories of the original book by Abnett, Lanning and Coipel.

    I think that the 5 years later stuff was good, at least the little bits I’ve read. Some people love it and some people hate it because it felt so alien to them. I think it wasn’t referenced because they decided to pick up the Legion where Levitz left it, with “The Magic Wars”, back in 1988. When Johns brought that team back he did a “years later” interpretation of the characters but left the 5 years later period out (“Superman and the Legion of Super Heroes”).

    Teen Titans

    Lobdell and Booth?!! Count me out.

    Hawk and Dove

    I do have fond memories of the Hawk and Dove miniseries from 1988, I actually liked Liefeld’s work in that miniseries. But since I’ve never again seen Liefeld draw nearly as good as he did back then, I’ve always thought that he was heavily inked by Karl Kesel who was also the writer. I know that Liefeld drew some pages for the 5th issues that forced the editor to ask Kesel to transform those pages into something more readable (he drew the pages horizontally, Kesel had to make them Vertical again)

    Static Shock

    John Rozum is a former Milestone writer, he created and is currently writing Xombi. What I don’t get is that this book was originally announced with Felicia Henderson writing.

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  3. Hyperion

    If that’s supposed to be Bart, then count me out.

    Am I right in assuming that he was never Impulse in this rebooted universe, therefore stuff like (comic) Young Justice never happened? That’s what I seem to be gathering from this, and I don’t like it at all – it was Impulse that got me into comics, it is Impulse I will stay loyal to.

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