Monthly Archives: November 2008

Quick Thoughts: Twitter Through 2008-11-16

New feature: a digest of my Twitter posts for the week.

  • Did some minor updates to site, including list of series & trades.
  • Oh, good: Madame Xanadu is continuing past the origin story. With nothing listed for Jan, I was afraid it had been canned.
  • Heroes & Sarah Connor both really good tonight, even if Heroes got their timeline all wonky.
  • OTOH, sick of them trying to make poor widdle Sylar into an innocent victim of circumstances.It’s not HIS fault he’s a serial killer! PLEASE
  • If I had to choose, I would rather see more Pushing Daisies than Brian Fuller returning to Heroes.
  • Despite his WW2-era origins, there’s a distinct lack of covers showing the Flash beating up on Nazis.
  • Justice Society & Justice League of America are better titles than JSA & JLA because you don’t need to already know what the letters mean.
  • More than half the comics I’m buying are ending within 4 months. Some are minis; some are being canceled.
  • IDW sale: Hmm, how many trades would it take for the discount to offset the cost of driving to San Diego?
  • Theory: fan casting choices are usually more “Who looks like this character?” than “Who can play this character?”
  • Positive spin on DD’s “meant to do that” w/Flash: IF they planned it all along, they had time to experiment a bit. DC should do that more.
  • Nifty: Victorian-era Justice League custom action figures.
  • With maybe 2 exceptions, a Flash comic has come out the third week of every month since June 2006. That streak ends after next month.
  • Is it my imagination, or does EVERY EPISODE of The Batman take place during a full moon (at least in Season 5)?
  • New Flash figures.
  • Sorry abt downtime earlier. Made a config change, too harried to check it until an hour later. Oops.
  • Watching “The Batman” finale
  • Finally got around to reading Crecy. A Warren Ellis book narrated by a total bastard. Who would have thought?
  • Imagine Kristin Chenoweth as Harley Quinn.
  • Finally read Chrono Mechanics. Didn’t like it as much as I expected to.

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Speed Reading: Art Contest, Velocity, Quicksilver, etc.

Comic Bloc is holding a Flash fan art contest.

Top Cow has a page for their upcoming Velocity series. They’ve also solicited the second issue, which has (IMHO) much better covers. More action girl, less swimsuit model.

Comics Make No Sense looks into how Quicksilver can fly.

The Comic Treadmill discusses Adventure Comics #373-375, including the first appearance of the Tornado Twins Don and Dawn Allen.

The Exponent (Purdue University’s student newspaper) contemplates that age old question, Who would win in a fight, Flash or Green Lantern?

Not directly speedster-related, but the Occasional Superheroine ponders the shift in emphasis from stories to events in comic books since the early 1980s.

New Cover for Flash #246

Comic Bloc poster elias6 noticed that DC has posted a new cover for next week’s Flash #246.

DC initially released the cover on the left by Brian Stelfreeze, showing Wally’s wife Linda West vanishing into thin air. (Stelfreeze did the covers for issues #244 and #245, as well as the cover that’s been solicited for #247, the final issue.) The newly released cover, showing a profile of the Flash’s head with reflections running along his costume, is by Freddie Williams II, who recently wrapped up a 10-issue run on the series.

Flash Transition Timeline

To keep the lengths of time in perspective, I’ve put together this timeline from the end of Geoff Johns’ well-regarded run on The Flash through several relaunches and two Crises to next year’s Flash: Rebirth. I’ve taken the cover dates from the GCD and shifted them back two months, since that seems to track with the release dates that I remember.

Dates Span Issues Description
August 2005 Flash #225 Geoff Johns’ last issue.
September 2005–January 2006 5 months Flash #226–230 Wrap up Wally (Cavalieri w/Lightle)
February–May 2006 4 months No Flash Comics
June 2006–January 2007 8 months Flash: TFMA #1–8 Bart as the main Flash (Bilson & De Meo)
February–June 2007 5 months Flash: TFMA Wrap up Bart (Guggenheim)
July 2007 1 month All-Flash Wrap up loose ends from “Full Throttle”
August 2007–August 2008 13 months Flash #231–243 Wally & the Flash Family (Waid, Peyer w/Champagne)
September–December 2008 4 months Flash #244–247 Wrap up Wally Again (Burnett)
January–March 2009 3 months No Flash Comics
April–September(?) 2009 6 months Flash: Rebirth

So from the point DC essentially gave up on Wally’s series (September 2005) to the point that DC will stake everything on a relaunch with Barry (April 2009, assuming it doesn’t get delayed) we’re looking at 3½ years. The longest run of a series during that time would be All-Flash with Flash #231–347 — just 1½ years, of which barely one year focused heavily on Iris and Jai West. (Alan Burnett or his editor shoved the kids off to the side pretty quickly when he came on board to do the wrap-up.)

Didio: Bart Was a Step in the Road Back to Barry

An interesting revelation from the latest 20 Questions with Dan Didio at Newsarama. He’s previously claimed (though many fans remained unconvinced) that Bart Allen’s death in Flash: The Fastest Man Alive #13 was planned from the start, but we’ve got a new twist. Here’s part of his answer to question #15:

Bart was always going to go away, and I think the mistake was that we probably pulled Bart a little too soon, but quite honestly again, that was the problem of lining stories up with Countdown. The Bart story was due to be extended a little bit longer, but due to how things were lining up, he had to leave sooner.

That story’s not complete yet. We’re going to see more of what that story was about shortly – it was always the plan for Bart. He was going to be the Flash of the moment as we made our way back to Barry. [emphasis added]

Okay, not a big surprise that they shuffled things around to match with Countdown.* But am I reading that right? Is he saying that they planned to bring Barry Allen back as long ago as Infinite Crisis? Didio continues:

I think Mark Waid did an admirable job of stepping in and trying to find a different slant to Wally and the family, which we found out, was a more difficult story to tell than when we planned it. I think Mark did as best a job as possible – he put so much thought and effort into fleshing out that family, and I think we have a couple of rich characters in the children because of that.

This is the other thing that gets confusing, depending on who tells it: When was the plan made for Wally to return, and when was the plan made for Bart to be killed? Mark Waid’s interview in The Flash Companion suggests that he, at least was led to believe that Bart’s move up to lead Flash was intended to be indefinite, not a fill-in gig, though he predicted it wouldn’t catch on. And Didio’s remarks here about Waid “stepping in” suggest that they did bring him on unexpectedly — though that could simply be the result of moving up the timetable. (Which, now that I think about it, might explain artist Daniel Acuña’s sudden departure.)

I’ll agree with Didio on this: the West Twins are promising characters, even if most of the comics readership seems to want to throw them under a bus.

But at the end of the day, there’s a certain expectation of what a Flash story is, and what you want to see in a Flash comic book. While we expanded the Flash family, people really wanted to see the Flash.

And that seems to have been the main criticism of issues #231–243: Not enough of the Flash in The Flash.

But the goal for me, always, was to get back to Barry in the same way the goal was to get back to Hal in Green Lantern.

Whoa, hold on a second. Now he is saying that they were planning to bring Barry back from the beginning?

Well why didn’t they do that in the first place?

Seriously, Infinite Crisis would have been a perfect time to bring Barry back. Sure, a lot of us would have been pissed off that they were getting rid of Wally just because it was a Crisis and going back to Barry just so that they could bring back the guy who was the Flash when they were twelve — but you know what, we’re pissed off anyway. Plus we’ve got the frustration of three years of mismanaged Flash stories on top of that.

So, to sum up: DC considered Bart as a temp from the beginning. And DC never had any intention of bringing Wally back after they kicked Bart out, at least not as the primary Flash. It was all about Barry from the start.

*I find it amusing — in a banging-my-head-against-the-wall way — that people were so annoyed with the way some stories were stretched out during Countdown for the sake of lining books up, and people are annoyed now with Final Crisis because they’re not trying to line everything up.

This Week (Nov 12): Titans and JLA/Avengers

The Flash appears in the latest issue of The Titans and in the collected edition of JLA/Avengers.

Titans #7

Written by Judd Winick; Art and Cover by Howard Porter

Match, the imperfect clone of Conner Kent, shows up at the Tower looking for a fight. But the Titans’ old teammate Jericho is still trapped inside him! To subdue Match and save Jericho, the Titans must find a way to force the two apart, and their solution has unexpected consequences for them all!

Notes: CBR has a preview of Titans #7 online.

JLA/Avengers (trade paperback)

Written by Kurt Busiek; Art and Cover by George Pérez

The once-in-a-lifetime crossover that brought two super-teams together and rocked the comics world is at last available in trade paperback! Own the entire 4-issue co-publishing event between DC and Marvel and written by Kurt Busiek (Trinity, Marvels) with stunning art by George Pérez (Final Crisis: Legion of Three Worlds, Avengers). This collection also features introductions by original Avengers writer/editor Stan Lee and Justice League of America editor Julius Schwartz.

Notes: All three (at the time) Flashes — Jay Garrick, Barry Allen, and Wally West — appear at various points in this story.

Possible Appearances

Wally West has been appearing off and on in Trinity. Either Jay Garrick or the Kingdom Come Flash could make an appearance in Justice Society of America Kingdom Come Special: Superman.