Part One of this piece covers the Reverse Flashes and major Rogues (the more popular ones). This part covers Gorilla Grodd, as well as some more minor villains who may appear in the television series – many of these characters were co-created by the show’s producer/writer Geoff Johns, and he’ll probably revisit them at some point. It’s already known that Girder will appear.
See the short biographies after the jump.
From Collected Editions we get the news that not all of DC Comics’ Villains Month issues will be collected in trades, “only the ones that fully tie into an ongoing series.” (Dan Didio)
This has me wondering about the three Flash villain issues.
Reverse Flash appears to be essentially part 5 of the 6-part Reverse Flash story currently running through The Flash, so it’s safe to say it’ll be included in The Flash Vol.4: Reverse.
The Rogues is billed as having a Forever Evil connection and is by the same creative team as Forever Evil: Rogues Rebellion, so it seems likely to appear as a prologue in the collected edition of that series.
Grodd, however? It’s hard to say. Based on the way DC put the Captain Cold two-parter in with Mob Rule for the Move Forward collection, and tossed in the Trickster two-parter with Gorilla Warfare, I wouldn’t be surprised to see it in the pages of Reverse.
Incidentally, when I asked Brian Buccellato about it, he sidestepped the question (it may not be decided yet anyway), but he and Retcon Punch got into a gorilla pun war that can’t be missed.
DC recently announced that a new Reverse-Flash will debut in Flash #17, the final chapter of “Gorilla Warfare,” and will feature in the story beginning in Flash #20. Writers Francis Manapul and Brian Buccellato wouldn’t reveal much this early, though the next story is going to focus on the question of “Who is the Reverse-Flash?”
Looking back at the interview, they don’t outright say that it won’t be Eobard Thawne or Hunter Zolomon, though that’s the way Comic Book Resources took it (and in the New 52, it makes sense to take that approach).
According to Manapul, the character “is going to be a complete re-imagining of him in the same way that we kind of tinkered with what the Speed Force is. We’re going to be explaining what the opposite side of that is.” Buccellato adds, “unlike previous Reverse-Flash iterations, we really take the ‘reverse’ part of it seriously.”
Of course, we’re comics fans, so it’s never too early to start speculating about the possibilities!
Dr. Darwin Elias. Initially an ally of the Flash, a scientist who has studied the speed force and the Flash’s powers. It turns out that he has a serious problem with ethics. He turned popular opinion against the Flash just to see what it would take, and gave the Rogues super-powers just to see what would happen. He and Barry Allen both being scientists could make for an interesting dynamic. Edit: On the downside, he’s already got potential in his current form, so folding him into an existing role takes what could be two villains and cuts them down to one.
Daniel West. Iris’ brother, recently released from jail after serving time for a job that was tharted by the Flash. He’s looking for his missing sister, who vanished during one of the Flash’s battles and is now trapped inside the speed force. It’s not hard to see motive, and if he somehow finds Iris, he could easily end up connected to the speed force in some way.
Iris West. The Flash could use some more female villains, she’s in the speed force right now, and it would be interesting to have the new Reverse Flash be someone with a romantic link to the Flash. That said, that angle has already been explored a lot with Batman, Catwoman and Talia Al Ghul; Iris doesn’t really have motivation to go villainous; and it would be a major change to a long-established character. On the other hand…
Patty Spivot. She’s mad at the Flash for “killing” Barry Allen. Unlike Iris, she’s actually dated Barry seriously in this timeline. She’s met someone (Turbine) who has been in the speed force, and could conceivably end up linked to it — in fact, in the last moments of the previous DCU timeline, she was linked to it, taking up Hot Pursuit’s outfit and speed force-powered motorcycle just before Flashpoint transformed the universe. She’s had enough page time for the audience to appreciate a switch, but not as much historical inertia as Iris.
Wally West. His fans have been clamoring for his return, and DC has been very coy: either they have no plans, or they’re saving him for something big. We don’t know what he’s up to in this timeline (if he even exists), but since Flashes have a history of dimension travel, we can imagine a pre-New 52 Wally West being trapped in this timeline, wanting to repair it, and blaming Barry for wiping his family out of existence. On the downside, DC has already gone down this road with Hal Jordan as Parallax and Superboy Prime (not that they’ve ever shied away from repetition). More importantly, perhaps, DC has been very insistent on not offering any “escape hatches” that might allow fans to think the old DCU could possibly come back, ever. Having a character explicitly from that old continuity sounds like something they’d want to stay away from. This option also didn’t fare well in the polls. 71% of Wally West fans and 64% of non-Wally fans, or 70% of the total responses, were opposed to the idea.* Update: Some additional thoughts on Wally West as a candidate.
Other possibilities: Bart Allen’s unlikely, as he’ll also be appearing in the same arc. There are other people at the crime lab, like Singh or Forrest. There’s Captain Frye or even Henry Allen. I’m fairly certain that Barry Allen’s literal evil twin, Cobalt Blue, has been long-since erased from history, but the science/magic dichotomy could still play out with another character.
My bet is either Dr. Elias or Daniel West, though I’d like to see what the book might do with Iris or Patty. What do you think?
Who do you think is going to be the new Reverse-Flash?
*The poll asked people to choose whether they were “a fan of Wally West” or “not particularly a fan of Wally West,” and whether they would be “OK with” the reveal. Of 106 votes: 67 fans opposed, 28 fans OK, 7 non-fans opposed, 4 non-fans OK.
On Friday, I live-tweeted the Justice League/Green Lantern panel at Comic-Con International. Here are those tweets, collected in one place with a few corrections.
DC panel is starting. Geoff Johns (blocked by podium), Jim Lee, James Robinson, Nicola Scott, Scott Lobdell, Brian Cunningham(?), Francis Manapul, Brian Buccellato,
Justice league 0 is big Shazam issue. Will join team next year.
JLI annual is a Booster Gold story that Dan (Jurgens, I assume) wanted to tell
(Geoff Johns covered some of the same Green Lantern ground as in the DC Now panel the day before.)
Guardians’ first army was Manhunters. Second army was Green Lanterns. Now Guardians want to try again w/Third Army
GL Corps 0 is New 52 Guy Gardner origin, sets stage for next few months
GL: Kyle showing signs of accessing other rings, may become secret weapon in upcoming war. Hope+compassion come easy to him. Rage not somuch
Kyle’s story in Third Army described as kung fu movie where hero has to master multiple styles.
Flash: We all know Barry’s origin, so were filling in gaps. Who raised him, why does he focus on justice?
FM: You guys like gorillas, right? Cause you’re going to see a lot of gorillas. Grodd invades Central City
And Flash is going to need help from Rogues to fight off Grodd’s gorilla army
Earth 2 #0: there were 8 wonders in the past, not just a trinity. 4th hero has since turned evil & is a villain in present day.
Wesley Dodds to appear as Sandman in Earth 2.
Leader of World Army in Earth 2 described as Captain Nemo meets Nick Fury.
Jeff Lemire & Geoff Johns working on JL Dark as bridge between main & Dark sides of DCU. 0 issue focuses on Constantine & Zatanna
Frankenstein, Amethyst, Tim Hunter joining Justice League Dark
Earth 2: yes, we’ll see more members. Rolling out slowly. More mystical feel to this world. Arc 2 is govt vs JSA, magic vs science
Complicated GL question. GJ answer: “You’re very astute.”
Why are all the British people evil? James Robinson: “Because we ARE all evil.”
Need to reexplore Kyle’s past now that Jade & Donna have been erased.
Fcbd followup in JL/JLDark crossover
Jim Lee: adopting TV model of choosing what to publish, how to assess changes to line.
Deadpool walks up to mike at DC panel. “Are you lost, sir?”
Q about GL of Krypton’s sector at time it exploded. I could swear someone did explore this in the 70s or 80s. (Several people point out that in the pre-Crisis DCU it was Tomar-Re)
No plans to revisit Flashpoint right now.
Flash Q: Is Barry going to revisit role as Blue Lantern? A: There is no blue in Barry’s immediate future.
Flash Q: is he ever going to find Bart or Jay? A: It’ll happen at some point.
Fan from Australia asks for Justice League Australia aka JLOz
Johns: Billy Batson’s attitude is what sets Shazam apart from Superman.
Geoff Johns plans to reintroduce the Metal Men at some point.
Lobo & Red Lantern ring prob not going to get addressed. “I just wanted to see him eat it & see what happens”
Fan asks about Wally. Buccellato: “It’s not really a panel until someone asks…. He’s somewhere.”
“He’s probably hanging out w/Ted Kord.” Audience: Oooooh. “Why must you hurt me so?” “B/c they love it.”
UPDATE: My full Comic-Con write-up is complete!
I wasn’t originally planning on attending Thursday’s DC Now panel at Comic-Con International, but my feet were tired and I figured I might learn something. It was mainly an informational panel with writers talking about the book they’re working on.
Here’s my terribly incomplete live-tweet coverage.
DC Now moderator says they came up with name for panel & were quite surprised when “someone else” used it.
Jimmy Palmiotti: “I was in the Twilight panel, that’s why I was delayed.”
Batman: Earth One. @geoffjohns describes as “rollback Batman” who doesn’t know what he’s doing & does it for wrong reasons.
Justice League year 1 was about what the team IS. Year 2 about what it SHOULD be. @geoffjohns
Why is new GL carrying a gun? “These rings run out of energy, don’t they?”
Third Army premise (eliminate free will) sounds like Darkseid and the anti-life equation.
Scott Snyder: in the past, the Joker hasn’t really gone after Barbara, Jason or Dick PERSONALLY. Now he will.
(At this point I left to go to another panel that I really wanted to catch. SpeedsterSite was following another liveblog, though.)
@SpeedsterSite: Buccellato says Flash #0 will explore who Barry is, “and why he’s the guy who always needs to do the right thing.”
@SpeedsterSite: Buccellato: “And there is no Wally in this run at all, I’m sorry.” Crowd boos.
UPDATE: My full Comic-Con write-up is complete!